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Financial psychotherapy, evolving gender roles and money habits. Listen to the podcast interview with Vicky Reynal
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Financial psychotherapy, evolving gender roles and money habits. Listen to the podcast interview with Vicky Reynal

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In this week’s newsletter, we highlight a short excerpt from the interview on The Purse Podcast with financial psychiastrist Vicky Reynal.

We talk about how financial psychotherapy can help address money issues, evolving gender roles, money habits, money avoidance, the impact on relationships, crisis points, and how women can engage more with their money. Please enjoy!

Listen to the full interview here.

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Financial psychotherapy, evolving gender roles and money habits.

Financial psychotherapist, Vicky Reynal joined us on The Purse Podcast to talk about money, money behaviours, how this impacts our relationships and more.


We interviewed financial psychiatrist, Vicky Reynal on The Purse Podcast.

Vicky runs a London-based private practice that specialises in financial psychotherapy.

She is the author of Money on your Mind: the Psychology behind your Financial Habits, which recently won Best Book at The Money Awareness and Inclusion Awards.

With a dual background in psychology/psychotherapy and an MBA from London Business School, she has worked with people from a range of industries, public sector, and creative professions.

She has years of experience as a psychotherapist in the private and public sectors, including the British NHS and has lived and worked in nine different countries across three continents.

We talk about gender roles and money, childhood influences on money behaviour, money avoidance and crisis points, money dynamics in relationships, therapy sessions about money issues and how women can engage more with their money.


Here is a a short excerpt from the interview:


Jana: “…How are gender roles evolving as a result of women earning more, inheriting more, owning more…?”


Vicky’s response:

..Things are evolving, they are changing, but how much that translates into different dynamics within couples? It's slow.

And I think many women… might have had the arguments with their partner at home around… why does the childcare and household responsibilities still default to her, even though they're both in full time employment?

Despite having similar salaries, I might still see the man managing the investments and assets, and then the woman managing more the household and holiday budgets, for example.

It is not an uncommon scenario, and it's taking time to shift because as humans, we default to what's familiar.

And even if a part of us would rationally not agree with how we're handling things and would rationally think that yes, we should both manage investments and we should both equally contribute we default to what we know.

And that's because many of us grew up in a ‘traditional model’; it is hard to fight against those tendencies and those stereotypes that we carry internally.

In Money On Your Mind, I talk about the paradigm of money equals power, and one couple in particular has gone to couples therapy, and the partner confesses that they feel entitled to less housework because they earn more money.

But I have seen cases in which even when they earn the same or the woman earns even more, she's still burdened with those responsibilities.

And so you can see that at one level, we believe one thing, but at another level, it's hard to apply it.

Jana: “It is hard to apply it. And I can understand how we want to have harmonious relationships… but it becomes difficult if you really want…(something) to change and the other partner won't let you…”

Vicky’s response:

But I've heard many times women say: ‘oh, but you know, he takes charge of it. He doesn't let me do anything’.

And I think in order to shift dynamics, we need to take some responsibility for are half of it, are half of the dynamic.

And sometimes I challenge that a little and I say": well, when was the last time you asked to do more, or you took some initiative, or even tried, or even simply just brought it up that you think it should be balanced differently and you want to learn how to manage the investments”.

And the answer is, often not.

Often we sit comfortably and that dynamic on the one hand and then maybe complain about it on the other hand, but we haven't really taken the steps to allow it to shift.

Jana: “Right we haven't really done the work. So for example, I love this idea of a ‘money date’ with your partner and maybe suggesting a money date once a week initially..and you can decide what you cover… that's a positive step, isn't it?”

Listen to the full interview here.


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We cover the following on our conversation:

  • What is financial psychotherapy

  • Gender roles and money

  • Generational differences in women's financial behaviour

  • Childhood influences on money habits

  • Money avoidance and crisis points

  • Money behaviours and self-sabotage

  • Money dynamics in relationships

  • Therapy sessions and overcoming financial issues

  • How women can engage more with their money

Please enjoy! Listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify+


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