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The BoE, rising interest rates and is inflation under control?

We talk to the independent UK economist, Shaun Richards on The Purse Podcast about the UK economy and what’s ahead.

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In this week’s newsletter, we highlight the interview with the independent UK economist Shaun Richards who rejoins us on The Purse Podcast.

We talk about the Bank of England (BoE) and how credible are they, having increased interest rates 14 times in a row? We also talk about inflation, the cost of living crisis, CBDCs, the energy debate and what can we be optimistic about in the UK economy?

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The BoE, rising interest rates and is inflation under control?

We talk to the independent UK economist, Shaun Richards on The Purse Podcast about the UK economy and what’s ahead.


Shaun Richards rejoined us on The Purse Podcast.

Shaun is an independent economist who specialises in inflation measurement and monetary economics. This follows a career in the City of London where he specialised in derivatives (mainly options) on interest rates and bonds.

He is a Bank of England watcher which covers the issues of monetary policy and money printing or quantitative easing (QE).

In this podcast interview we talk about the Bank of England (BoE)-are they doing a good job? Rising interest rates, is inflation under control, the cost of living crisis, CBDCs (digital currency), the energy debate and what can we be optimistic about in the UK economy?

Below is a short extract from the interview:


Jana: …And of course, here we are, the Bank of England has increased the base rate again to 5.25%. And it's probably going higher. The good news is that inflation has dipped a little bit in June to 7.9%. It was 8.7% in May. The obvious question, Shaun, is how effective do you think increasing interest rates in this market and economy is?

Because it doesn't really feel like we do have inflation under control in the UK or anywhere, although in the U.S. they're doing a lot better…


Shaun’s response:

Well, it depends how you measure it.

It's one of my specialist areas, but going back to your question: interest rates. You see what we've lost is what I would call the delta of an interest rate rise.

What happens in response to it?

Because the world's changed since the last time anyone did this, for a start. In the UK, last time interest rates were anything like this was back in 2007. We haven't seen a rise like this (which I think is also an important point, how quickly they've done it) for decades.

And then it was at very different levels and very different times. So there's quite a bit of uncertainty in that.

I run an analogy which goes as follows:

Interest rate rises are like a brick on a piece of elastic: nothing happens, nothing happens, nothing happens, nothing happens. Whack!

Where this time around, I think the risk is, they’ve done this in a rush ie 14 times in a row they've raised interest rates.

So the risk is, in the future, that we'll be hit by the brick. And then we will be wondering, what's happened?

And that's the problem.

What has changed in the meantime? I can give you two specific things which have slowed things up. You see, the old theory was you change interest rates and the full impact is felt about 18 months to two years later.

This time around things were different. Why?

In the UK there are a lot more fixed rate mortgages. Now they doesn’t last forever ie they are usually two, three, four or five year terms but that means to some extent people have bought time.

Now that's actually a good thing if you think about it.

Because central banks were saying all sorts of things when interest rates were very low, but it shows people were brighter than that… and it was best to get a bit of insurance.

…So there's a slower reaction function. And there's been some research in the United States saying that quite a lot of companies, particularly the bigger ones, borrowed when things were cheap.

They need to borrow less now. So the point of those two factors is that they're slowing the impact and that's probably why.. in these circumstances, the economy is doing quite well.

…We're doing better now, I think partly because of those two factors.

I think there's a third one. And the Bank of England won't like me for saying this:

I don't think people actually believe them and think that they'll cut again as soon as they can. So they're seeing this as a temporary phase. Of course, the problem is how long that lasts…

So they are the factors. I have a bit of relative optimism.

Now, I don't know what the Friday GDP numbers are saying this, but it looks as if there'll be positive for the second quarter (note: it was reported Friday that the UK GDP grew by 0.2% between April and June). It's quite tight.

..So we're moving forward, whereas… the Bank of England and the Office for Budget Responsibility were incredibly negative. I think that was wrong… And the risk was some sort of downward spiral, which hasn't happened…

Listen to the full interview with Shaun Richards.

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We cover the following in our conversation:

  • How credible is the Bank of England (BoE)?

  • Rise in interest rates

  • The cost of living crisis

  • The energy debate

  • CBDCs (digital currency)

  • What can we be optimistic about in the UK economy?

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