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The GDP measure: why we need to move beyond it. And listen to the podcast interview with Anam Parvez Butt, Head of Research for Oxfam GB
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The GDP measure: why we need to move beyond it. And listen to the podcast interview with Anam Parvez Butt, Head of Research for Oxfam GB

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In this week’s newsletter, we spotlight a short extract from The Purse Podcast interview with Anam Parvez Butt, a Pakistani feminist economist who currently works as the Head of Research at Oxfam GB.

We talk about the GDP (gross domestic product) measure, why it is problematic and how we should move beyond it.

Listen to the full interview here.

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The GDP measure: why we need to move beyond it

We talk to Anam Parvez Butt on The Purse Podcast about the GDP measure and why we need to move beyond it.


We interviewed Anam Parvez Butt on The Purse Podcast.

Anam is a Pakistani feminist economist who currently works as the Head of Research at Oxfam GB where she works with others to develop and implement Oxfam’s research agendas on care and informal work, fragility and conflict and climate justice.

In particular, the focus areas of her research include gender and macroeconomic policies, the care economy, feminist economic alternatives including metrics that challenge the neoliberal logic of growth, social norms and ending violence against women and girls (eVAWG).

She is deeply committed to integrating intersectional feminist and decolonial approaches in research, learning from and supporting others to do so.

She has co-authored two of Oxfam’s flagship inequality reports including “Time to Care”, the “Care Policy Scorecard” and recently published paper on “Radical Pathways to move beyond GDP”. 

In the podcast interview we talk about: the GDP measure: what is it, why this is problematic for women and for women's wealth, why Oxfam has added its voice to move beyond the GDP, the recently published report called ‘Radical Pathways Beyond GDP’, why and how we need to pursue feminist and de-colonial alternatives urgently, and how do we accelerate the pace of change?

Below is a short extract from the interview:


Jana: “…And moving on to why it's problematic, in addition to the inequality and sustainability issues or environmental challenges that we're faced with today- it is especially problematic for women because 65% of women's work on a weekly basis is essentially unmeasured by the GDP.

And this has significant consequences for 50%-51% of the population globally…”


Anam Parvez Butt’s response:

Yes, absolutely. As you said, it's (GDP: gross domestic product) not even a good measure of what it's supposed to measure, which is economic activity.

And the stat that you quoted, which is a really staggering one, that 65% of women's working hours globally are excluded from GDP.

And this is due to unpaid care, which accounts for 45% of all adults working hours each week globally, not being captured in GDP calculations.

Women carry out three quarters of unpaid care globally, nearly 90 billion hours a week, dedicating on average 4.5hrs a day to it compared to 1.02hrs for men.

As well as the low paid informal work that women, particularly black and brown women do, is a hidden subsidy to the global economy, without which the system as we know it would collapse.

We count 1.3 billion women worldwide who do this work and whose effort, contribution, and value is hardly reflected in GDP's definition of the economy.

And why does this matter?

We know that what isn't seen or counted doesn't only impact what is measured, but critically affects policies around what gets invested in and who benefits and loses around the world.

Public care provisions are sorely lacking, pushing women deeper into time and income poverty, even more so for women who are already experiencing inequalities based on race, ethnicity, income, or age.

Only 44% of countries meet the ILO's minimum standard on maternity leave.

In the U. S., which, tops the world in terms of GDP and spent over 800 billion US dollars on its military in 2021.

There is no federal paid leave policy. In other parts of the world, large deficits and basic kind of physical infrastructure, piped water, electricity, sanitation continue to persist.

In sub Saharan Africa, only 55% of households are within 15 minutes of a water source. And women spend sometimes over four hours a day just collecting water.

And this lack of universal care policy coverage in part rests on this assumption that households and within households, particularly women and girls, will provide these services for free.

And instead of greater investments in these services, we instead see austerity policies, in the form of cuts to public services and employment.

And these are sponsored by the likes of the World Bank and the IMF, and are soon to affect 85% of the world's population and directly harm women who are found facing a triple burden.

Firstly, welfare cuts on which they depend. Then, stepping in to fill the gaps with their unpaid labor. And then thirdly, cuts to jobs and pay in the public sector where women workers predominantly make up the workforce.

Now, 10 years of austerity in the UK has been accompanied by a fall in life expectancy among women in the most deprived areas, largely from minority ethnic and racial groups.

One of the key arguments that we make in the report is that it is no surprise or accident that GDP leads to policies that harm women and girls.

Because it is embedded in an extractive, patriarchal, and neocolonial economic system, which, in the words of eco feminist Vandana Shiva, reduces the society to the economy.

The economy to the market and systematically invisibilises and exploits care work, but also nature.

And its a model and way of thinking that creates the sort of artificial symmetry between the market economy and the non market economy, or what, feminist economists call, the maintenance or sustenance economy, which consists of care activities, ecological processes on which all human life depends.

But the market economy is considered the entire economy.

What is productive, what sits inside the primary focus of economic thought and policymaking, whereas the maintenance economy, is considered unproductive, valueless and lying outside of this focus.

And I also wanted to mention that, apart from unpaid care, GDP doesn't tell us anything directly about social and ecological wellbeing at large; our health, our happiness, life satisfaction.

It ignores the value of peace and clean air, in fact, oil spills through cleanup efforts can actually increase GDP whilst not polluting the ocean counts for nothing.

It doesn't distinguish how growth is happening and who it is harming or benefiting. So a dollar spent on coal is valued the same as a dollar spent on public health.

And the environmental cost of burning that coal is not even factored in.

It also takes no account of inequality. A country can have high GDP growth, yet all the benefits accrue to the richest people.

One of the examples we give is of Equatorial Guinea, for instance, which has one of the highest figures for GDP per capita on the African continent, at one point even higher than Spain, I think.

But despite this, primary school enrollment rates remain lower, infant mortality remains higher than the sub-Saharan African average.

And analysis by scholars in the country has shown that this is largely a result of widening inequalities and the capture of GDP by wealthy elites, something that does not feature in, in GDP accounts.

So in summary, it really does a very, very poor job of really measuring what matters…

Listen here to the full interview.

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We cover the following in this conversation:

  • The GDP measure: what is it?

  • Why this is problematic for women and for women's wealth

  • Why Oxfam has added its voice to move beyond the GDP

  • The recently published report called Radical Pathways Beyond GDP

  • Why and how we need to pursue feminist and decolonial alternatives urgently

  • And how do we accelerate the pace of change?

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