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Women and wealth: rewriting the history of economic thought. Listen to the podcast interview with feminist economist, Edith Kuiper.
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Women and wealth: rewriting the history of economic thought. Listen to the podcast interview with feminist economist, Edith Kuiper.

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In this week’s newsletter, we highlight a short extract from The Purse Podcast interview with feminist economist, Edith Kuiper.

We talk about why we need to make women visible in economics and therefore the need to rewrite the history of economic thought.

This is such a special and important interview which highlights Edith Kuiper’s vital work and contribution, based on her extensive research and her recent book called: A Herstory of Economics (2022).

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Women and wealth: rewriting the history of economic thought

Edith Kuiper joins us on The Purse Podcast to talk about why we need to rewrite the history of economic by including women.


Edith Kuiper joined us on The Purse Podcast.

Edith is Associate Professor and Chair of the Economics Department at the State University of New York at New Paltz, updates New York.

Her research has been in feminist economics and in the history and philosophy of economics. She is currently a visiting researcher at the Centre of Resilience and Sustainable Development at the University of Cambridge.

Edith has recently published A Herstory of Economics (2022).

In this podcast interview we talk about: why we need to make women visible in economics and therefore rewrite the history of economic history.

Here is a short extract from the interview:


Jana: …You talk about middle and upper class women; the handling of money by women was considered so very unfeminine and vulgar, even. Working for money was just not the done thing if you were middle or upper class.

But there are echos of this to this very day. Money is still considered taboo. Women talking about money is still considered somehow, unladylike. And so we see the manifestation of this narrative and these norms that don't help women build the economic wealth they need to sustain themselves over their lifetime...


Edith Kuiper’s response:

It has serious ramifications.

To some extent it is leftover from times when that counted much stronger. My mother was from a upper middle class background and working for pay was just not on the horizon because that was considered ‘ordinaire’

But, to put it in a much broader context:

What happened in the industrial revolution was that productive activities before that were taking place in the household; they were moved out of the house and they were concentrated in workshops and industries that were dominated by men.

So English marriage laws separated wealthy women from their wealth and assigned it to husbands to ‘play with’.

And then you get this middle class morality that develops a system of norms and values that separates women even further from their capital.

As they were not considered, at least they were told, that they were not considered to be able to make any decisions about their own capital.

Money therefore was considered dirty: it was not to be thought or talked about, especially not for women (also, for some men), but it was simply not considered decent.

So what you see…. is that men develop in terms of political economy, a cohesive theoretical framework and language they defined and pursue ‘the interest of man’.

That is such a strong tool.

It's like developing their own language. And women did not have access to that framework nor to developing that framework; to developing that language. And that language was developed by men to further their own wealth economic interest..

So, in my view, over time, the exclusion of women and the activity has been a very strong driver for the direction of development of the economic thought.

While women obtained access to education over the 19th century; they start fighting back, and they do that very successfully.

They get access to education in the second half of the 18th century. They obtain political power; the power to vote over the course of the 20th century…

…but women have been successfully excluded from economic power. And that's still going on.

From the perspective of financial power in particular; the stock markets, the banking world: the concentration of financial power has been able to shield itself most effectively from women getting access to power; women getting access to decision-making in the banking industry.

So, this is not a coincidence, that we are talking about the financial economy:

…the fact that the banking; the financial services industry has become so central in our economy and the fact that this is exactly where women still have to fight really hard to get into the industry (in a decent percentage of representation).

This is not a coincidence: where economic power is located and where women still do not have the access.

But after the (financial) crisis of 2008/2009, I think there has been an emerging awareness under at least feminist economists and women elsewhere in the field, that the stock market is not value neutral, the banking world is not value neutral.

Women need to have access to these industries because when you give women access to these industries, the industries perform better.

You get more soundly based decision-making in what I call the global casino, that was emerging in the 2006-2008 period, that totally went out of hand….

Listen here for the full interview

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We cover the following in our conversation:

  • Making women visible in economics

  • Rewriting the history of economic history

  • The impact on women's financial well-being

  • Closing the gender pay gap and women's work

  • The world of finance and why women have been largely absent

  • Gender equality and gender equity in the workplace

  • And more+


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